Perhaps you weren't patient enough to wait for the full warmed-up light output? If you think the light output is crap, come look at my bathroom. Steve , 19 Apr Thanks for all advice. PeteOP , 23 Apr I prefer the v GU10 types JohnD , 25 Apr Ohms law tells us the only thing that changes with a different voltage is the ampage All i can see is 12v is safer. Someone enlighten me please. You must log in or sign up to reply here.
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You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should upgrade or use an alternative browser. Hi guys just wondering about the advantages and disadvantages of the two. Obviously energy consumption and price being the most obvious points. A collleague told me that the light given off by the 12v type is very poor and recommended the v, just want to hear other opinions before i go ahead and buy the v type.
Also anything else i need to consider for example any precautions of the heat given off the v type etc. Low energy mate, The v kick off some heat. With all the insulation in lofts these days it causes problems.. And Horray i bet Tele!!!!!!!! Reaction score 3, Basically some will say that v better as no transformer, others will say that they installed ELV ones 8 yrs ago and everything is still working fine, so take your choice.
Mine is v for a transformer is just another part that can go wrong, and you may not be as lucky as get 8 yrs out of it. Your mate as got it the wrong way round, usually the 12 volt ones give a better light, but now you will get guys saying that have improved. For me still v as the difference in light is really minimal. Heat the 12volt ones do produce more heat, and in the past they have burnt out their holders or at the worse made them loose and not light.
So as you can see I'm volt but you will soon see that there is going to divided theme. Then of course your going to get the LED over the Halogen debate Personally if it were my house I would fit neither as I don't like them. If you regret putting in the Halogens,perhaps you can purchase some of the new MR16 Led lamps that are on offer. Then there will be good savings for your electricity bill and you can feel good for saving some black balloons. Do a google search and see what you can find.
Rgds Greg. Are they 12V or V?? I guess I can fit a plug lead to them to go into the existing plug-in bases. Hi they are 12 volt and they connect into the existing connections. We have got the sparky to install plugs where we would like downlights, does anyone know if these plugs can be used for ALL types of downlights?
Hi there all, Just to add my 2cents worth Halogen downlights are rated at AC, and led's are rated at DC.
Therefore, to simply change the globe over, there are 2 outcomes: 1- It will not work. Like anything people, when a job is half done, the result is only half as well.
Hope this helps!! We went to Beacon Lighting today and bought the V Murano downlight setup for our small kitchen This will have a cost and there will be some power loses get an electronic, rather than magnetic transformer to minimise these losses.
So when the bulb is rated at 50W, you need to add another 10W or so for the power used in the ballast. Retrofit LED lamps are not really the way to go. Specifically, they can have issues with keeping their LEDS and electronics cool which could impact the life of the lamp. Ah yes. At home I have 1cct for overhead worktop lighting, 1cct for overhead peripheral downlighting and 1cct for under unit lighting. Running the whole lot and this is where the magic starts is one of these…..
I remain to be convinced by things like that Lutron dimmer. Is there any free or cheap software to do it? Trust me, having stuck one of the existing halogens in the enclosed fitting they do not project the heat out. But of course YMMV. The cans have air holes at the top, and as adjustable ones, gaps at the bottom.
As I said when I ran them in free air they never got more than lukewarm so even in the ceiling I doubt there would be a problem. Indeed — when I replaced my halogens with LEDs I found more than one melted transformer case and a scorched bit of wire. LEDS much safer in comparison. Go for a known brand like Philips, Osram etc if you can afford to or buy 1 cheapo Chinese lamp and try it.
I have had some cheapo ones go bang in a very spectacular way. Philips for me has always had the best light output, colour temperature and dimming curve. Which leads to.. Use a good quality dimmer designed for low load LED fittings, you will experience flicker and stepped dimming and worse otherwise.
It will make the room look sterile. Also be aware of how inefficient the drivers can be. Fit carefully. Although they draw around 6w each I am still happy with the result. They are bright enough at night. The photograph was taken about an hour ago in fading grey overcast daylight.
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